Alright, thanks man. Im just scared estrogen levels may go high during these 4 weeks and I cant just do bloodworks every week, it would be too expensive. Granted, thats not an ideal way of figuring it out, and it somewhat defeats the purpose of blasting AAS in the first place if youre going to use a dose so high that it forces you to take AIs to drop your Estro into range, when you could just choose another more efficacious hormone to couple with a lower dose of Test your body can handle. Hey Derek, Ive been on a great cycle of 250mg test, 250mg deca and I started taking 12.5mg of aromasin/week 4 weeks ago because I was feeling high E symptoms. Men ask for complete details and for that, below is a brief discussion on what you need to know about TRT when getting started. I was not sure if I should rather just leave out the Arimidex. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. 89 pg/ml. I had only been running it for about a month though the dex. However just had a concern, so Ive been on cycle for about a week but had pre bloodwork done and my estrogen was already a bit high for some reason. My upcoming blast will be low test (200-250mg/wk) moderate to high anabolics (non-aromatizing anabolics this go around), so I may ultimately end up using 1.5 mg of adex (.5 mg on MWF) and get bloodwork to see where everything is at. Continue it and taper down until I begin my PCT 10-14 days after? I know youre shooting blindly but, do you think thats a sound approach Derek? In regards to a SARM cycle would this be used as a PCT, during the cycle, or both? Depends. I cant predict what you will/wont need though at the end of the day, hence the article. If someone was running a 12 week test e 300mg each week, with oxandrolone 1-4 8-12 50mg ED Would arimastane be a strong enough AI if problems were to arise on cycle? Im just asking cause I have already bought 30 tabs of aromasin. Im getting aromasin again very soon. Notes : I have Apoxar Aromasin (12.5Mg) on hand in case I need to counter any estrogen during my cyclee (which I would do taking the precautions you talked about and such). If these symptoms go away and your sex drive is perfect, you have no erectile dysfunction issues, etc. Depends if they full removed the gland or not. What I can tell you though is that an AI will inhibit your systemic Estrogen, which is the root of all Estrogen issues, and then a SERM (like Nolva) occupies the receptors in breast tissue that would prevent gyno from developing. (I will obviously do bloodworks again mid-cycle) Thank you in advance! Knowing Im estrogen sensitive, what dosage of adex should start with while still cruising given the info I gave you? my TRT is also 150 mg per week, and I literally only need to use 12.5 mg of Aromasin once a week to keep my Estrogen in the sweet spot. Very low doses of DIM (less than 100mg daily) in combination with other sulforaphanes and necessary cofactors folate and B12 as found in nature can help alter estrogen detoxification pathways in the gut and liver and improve the 2:16 alpha hydroxyl estrone ratios to reduce excessive estrogen activity. Its quite complicated but it makes a great Post Cycle Therapy (PCT). Hey derek, Im currently running a 12 week cycle and Im 1 week in. Then, after actually getting on TRT, another challenge often rears its ugly head, and that is Estrogen control, and how to go about doing it safely and most effectively. However, in some cases such as a light SARMS or Prohormones cycle, even Nolva will be too much. If youre forced to use an AI to use a certain dose of Test, then youre using too much Test, or your frequency of administration, diet and/or lifestyle practices are not optimized to allow you to use that much without overly aromatizing. I cant even count how many times Ive seen a guy propose his entire cycle layout asking for feedback, and for some strange reason his AI dose is already determined prior to the cycle, and stays constant for the entire duration of the cycle despite other changes in aromatizing compounds occurring during the cycle. Arimistane is a suicide aromatase inhibitor (AI) that is very similar to the pharmaceutical compound Aromasin. I want to order the right blood test. I thought Id do a safe first cycle and only do Test Propionate 100mg. One of the side effects for patients is testicular atrophy, or reduction in there own production of Testosterone and sperm. Thing is I did the bloodworks after just 1 week and a half, and Ive been told it usually takes 4-5 weeks for test to fully build in your system so that estrogen number may rise and at that point 0.25mg EOD may not be enough. Nolvadex and Clomid arent AIs so you cant compare them for on cycle estrogen management. Hey so I understand what you are saying but the only reason Im taking an AI is just in case because you had said test e is the most aromatizing. Obviously everyone is different and some things work for others and not so much for everyone else. Side effects Arimistane is a mild AI and as such does not have many side effects. You can take Arimistane in 2 ways OTC PCT (over the counter post cycle therapy) or as a solosans a prohormone cycle. You take a dose to mimic as if they were. Side effects (positive or negative) you plan to experience/mitigate. And can I use HCG during the cycle ? What are you assuming should be the dose if you had to guess? If you've read any of my posts about hormones, you probably already know by now how little faith I have in most general doctors when it comes to properly addressing underlying hormonal deficiencies and imbalances. Arimistane is one of the compounds found in a lot of prohormones and SARMS now. Reply Nate May 19, 2016 at 3:18 pm. You definitely dont want to crash your estrogen because this can cause side effects. Hypothetically, if I were to show symptons of high estrogen after seeing what Im currently doing, how much anastrazole would you add a week? Was wondering if you think I should do the test before I take the anastrazole dose for the day or after. Two pills of arimidex a day. Unlike synth It also focuses on lifestyle activities like exercise and nutrition for raising testosterone levels naturally or I wouldnt run a test dosage so high that it forces you to use an AI first of all. Purchased from medichecks. Hey Derek. I run 500 sustanon a week year around for last couple years. If so, run it during or after YK? Cause I read unlike other Ai aromasin boosts igf by 25%, whereas letrozole and adex suppress it. Besides that, youll also find quality ingredients such as Laxogenin which can be useful during PCT. Hey just one more question. Id start at 0.25 mg ED and titrate up accordingly. If your Estrogen is too high, then you need to slightly increase your AI dose, or switch to a stronger one and start the titration process over again. My question, should I rather drop the Arimidex till I get my blood tests back? I have a liver support since Im doing an oral cycle. Especially since T-bol shouldnt aromatise too strong. If youre dead set on it, Aromasin. Id start with 0.25 mg ED for now seeing as you have no bloods to reference. But what you have mentioned above makes sense. The capsules I am going to get have 25mg each, which will make it easy for me to adjust my dosage. Im just beginning a 12 week of only Test Cypionate cycle, nothing else. Means a lot. microdosing your weekly TRT in daily shots subq) that may allow you to avoid needing an AI entirely (the ideal scenario). 1.0 mg Arimidex (Anastrozole) per week in divided doses My question is this: am I taking too much AI (Arimidex @ .5mg every other day)? Your feed back is greatly appreciated! My question for you sir is, should I continue taking the arimidex for pct? I am just developing good chest muscles or is this gynecomastia which is what I suspect. Arimistane is not considered to be a base prohormone. Considering using 50mg on days of injection at first to see if that helps, then I may slowly increase or decrease my doseage, depending on results. Thanks. So you think I should get off the AI anyway and repeat the bloodworks at week 6-7 and see if I need to start taking it again? This is EXACTLY why when you are utilizing a drug that aromatizes into Estrogen and an AI may become necessary, you get baseline blood work, and then when you add an AI in, you use a very conservative dose of the most mild and forgiving AI there is (depending on what/how much aromatizing hormones you're using), and titrate up accordingly based on your blood work until you've reached the Estrogen sweet spot (or based on symptoms which is the bro method which is not recommended). If your Estrogen is too low, then you need to slightly lower your AI dose, or switch to a weaker one and start the titration process over again. Its almost guaranteed you will at least need 12.5mg EOD or ED though on that much Test. I appreciate you looking at that for me. The entire point of the article is explaining why you shouldnt have a predetermined AI dose, and youre asking me what predetermined AI dose you should use. I did LGD at 10mg a day before starting my first cycle and TRT and I can say that it was stronger than 150mg TRT but weaker than 500 test, but the side effects (mainly heart rate and blood pressure) were worse than the 500 test so eh. If youre going about it right, I guess wait and see how you feel once your Estro is more optimal. I prefer Aromasin for a small change like that. Second and third week: 50-75 mg per day. So I am going right? After dedicating over 8 years to extreme self-improvement, I have created "More Plates More Dates" as a one stop shop for helping you to get yourself on the right path to the "best you" possible too. What is your suggested Post-PCT rime before repeating cycle? Thanks in advance! My general stance is that you should avoid AIs entirely if possible. PLEASE NOTE: Product image is representative of the product offered but may not have the exact attributes. Months later, it just flared up again. This means that it should be dosed multiple times per day to maintain stable levels in the system. P.s. I am about to start on my HCG at 500ui p/w (again, pinning every 5 days. You just said you came off a cycle 4-5 weeks ago, and then you said youre still on 500 Sust. And if so, how do I know when Id need AI again? Going to have to dial it all in again soon since Im going to add HCG as soon as my gf gets her IUD replaced. also take arimasine both on and pct, Arimistane: How It Works, Effects & Results Revealed, Arimistane (Androsta 3, 5-dien-7, 17-dione). And if I do the above, what dose and how often ? Hi, As far as I understand, in your opinion a 12 week test only cycle is not a good choice. If testosterone doses are raised, then an increase may be needed to control estrogen. If your doctor is forcing drugs like Arimidex on you, be 100% sure you understand how to interpret your blood work before you start popping pills and hurt yourself. Im on week 4 with no real issues. It seems that AI usage has become so commonplace that users dont even bother to understand the purpose of the drug in the first place prior to implementing it into their regimen. Alright so this is my 3rd cycle. At a gram a week you might need even more than what youre using. I hope you can spare some time answering my question. I have added omeprazole and simethicone to handle the digestive issues and have had good results. Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. I started out with a couple of test cycles (500mg/wk) while taking the much touted 12.5 mg of aromasin/wk assuming all was good because Ive never experienced sides. You might need one, you might not. Hey man hope everything is going well for you. But need guidance on AI on cycl.e. Lets say I did bloods and I know how much AI I need to take ON cycle in order to keep my estrogen in the sweet spot. Before I read this article, my plan was to use Arimidex 0.5mg every 3 days from the start of my cycle. I do have Arimidex on hand though and was wondering if you might be able to suggest a start dose, so that I can taper up if needed. He is one of the most knowledgeable authors on BlueCloud. I just finished my first 2 month cycle of clen + T3(50mcg,1 a day) and anavar (20mg on off day, 40mworkout workout day) and arimidex (1mg pill every 3 days). Currently taking .5mg x4 a week. Of course Ill be taking something more like 0.25mg per week instead. Okay i see. I also hate Arimidex. Increased Test = increased DHT as well. Just trying to get a feel for what would be expected. Also should I worry about aromasin and hairloss? Nowadays, AIs are treated almost as on-cycle essentials, and are simply a necessity just like your multivitamin you pop each day is. Many guys find testosterone injection intimidating, perhaps because there isnt enough information about it to get started. You will need to clarify what would 2 pills be enough means. And If so how often ,and for how long do you reccomend? If you want a comprehensive thyroid panel then add TPO Antibodies, TG Antibodies, and Reverse T3 to your cart. Do you think that is a good starting point or the test I am using is high and shoulder use aromasin more. Hey Derek. Gyno is pretty obvious when it is flaring as your nipples will be incredibly sensitive. E.G. Did this for a then .5 ED and still noticed I felt really moody in the mornings. Ideally you dont even want to be on an AI if you dont need one. Definition hasnt come yet , and i feel the gains are partly water and muscles. Hey bud, Im running per week test e 500 1-10w Deca 600 1-10w Winny 50mg Ed 1-7w Im on my 8th day Dont feel any pain during or after injections nor do I feel any extra energy etc. I wouldnt use anything stronger than that. This is far less likely to happen with the weaker AIs like Arimistane and Aromasin, but it is very common with Arimidex and Letrozole. My pre cycle bloods were all in a normal range but for the last 10 days or so Ive been experiencing tender nipples, depression, acne and water retention. An increase in GH automatically increases the secretion ofInsulin-Like Growth Factor-1, which is one of the most desirable hormones forathletes and bodybuilders. There might be a thyroid panel thats cheaper than adding those 3 separately, youd have to double check. Stopped the EQ and went to 1mg a day arimidex and didnt help. Thank you Derek. When doing a light cycle, youre better off using Arimistane. It contains roughly 25mg Arim per capsule which makes it great for dosing. You will undoubtedly run into Estrogen issues without an AI on that much aromatizing gear. Once you get an E2 reading on Test you can figure out how much Adex (if any) you need. Unless you have a genetic polymorphism that results in you aromatizing far more than the average male, you shouldnt need an AI at all for 300 mg of Test imo. Im going to run this 20 weeks: 500mg Test Cyp 1-20 50mg Dbol 1-4 50mg Winstrol 16-20 My pct will be cruise back at 250mg Test cyp. Arimidex is horrible for lipids and not something you want to be on long term. If you are using 250 IU's then switching to 125 IU's will usually do the trick. Youll find users that go over 75mg per day, but its only advised to do so when you are experienced and know what you are doing. And now Ive numbed up to 550mg Test E per week. Please read product description for the specific attributes of this product. Im considering going to a urologist for a test/estrogen bloodwork prescription. Im getting an MRI done next week to see if theres any tare (hopefully not, hopefully its just tendonitis inflammation). I know you dont know the dosage, but do i start with Aromasin or Arimidex ? Doing a low dose (5mg ED) YK11 run just for a little boost, would Arimistane be solid enough or even really needed? Unfortunately, in NY it isnt as easy to get tested whenever you want as far as test (especially free) and estrogen. Week 1-12 test e 500 mg per week Week 1-5 Anadrol 50 mg per day, I was thinking of starting letrozol once i start feeling the bloating/gyno but Im confused as i had my gynocomestia operation done 3 months ago. Difficult to get hold of Thanks for a speedy response! This is why the use of Arimistane has gotten very popular amongst bodybuilders. I have anastrazole on hand in 1mg tabs. It isnt rocket science, however, many users seem to have completely neglected to comprehend why they are using an AI in the first place, and what purpose it serves. DESCRIPTION. There are some test orders you can purchase but theyre limited to just total test (no free) through Quest Lab and my PCP doctor cant justify prescribing bloodwork so often. I had the Red Supplements Pct on hand but didnt experience any side effects so I didnt use it. Tom. I managedto get 60x 25mg aromasin. For Breast Cancer: Exemestane is the third aromatase inhibitor I have tried, and although side-effects are fewer than with letrozole or anestrozole, they are still severe. Androsta 3, 5-dien-7, 17-dione is also used to help combat aromatazation from prohormones and other performance enhancers. Do I drop the AI after my last shot of test? What would you suggest I do with my Arimidex dose for now based on these results? Now Im kinda freaking out because I cant do bicep curls or even open a damn vertically sliding window with one arm without feeling it in my bicep tendon. Im also personally pretty prone to high aromatization. Look closer, from week 1-12 the guy has proposed that he will be using 0.5 mg per day of Arimidex. Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals has raised the bar in Post Cycle Therapy with Arimistane PCT. Even with high testosterone levels, you can still experience ALL of the unwanted side effects of out of range estrogen levels if they are too high or low. Areola is slightly bigger than before. Thanks in advance. Im on 20mg nolva and just started ralox last week along with 12.5 mg aromasin E3D. Am just taking 0.5 mg every other day . And if so, what do I do? Whats your recommendation of which AI should I use and at what dosage. I take 1ml EOD so Im roughly running at just over 300mg a week. Keep up with the vids and articles. Am I likely to have to lower it or increase it? Required fields are marked *. Some guys don't even need an Aromatase Inhibitor at all, which is also something to keep in mind. 300 mg Test E per week for 12 weeks I think is a great first cycle. Seriously. Ive read to use about 1mg daily if symptoms of high estrogen pop up. You will need to be more specific about what exactly is going on. Hey Derek, Im 22 just got my natural blood work done never taken anything my levels were 390 total test , estrodial was 18.. would you mind telling me how I should dose my AI I am doing TRT myself at 250 test E to see how I feel Ik its high for trt but seeing how I react dont wana do a big cycle. I have bad genetic estro problems cause mom has big boobs. For indivisuals weighing more than 200lbs, the dosage can be increased to 150mg per day, in devided dosages. Im bloated, nipples sore, gyno etc. What cycle would you recommend as an alternative? Also how long after taking the Arimidex should I expect to see if its enough or not? I will keep Nolva and clomid as a PCT. These are the results: Testosterone, Total: 34,40 ng/ml (reference value 2,40-8,71), Testosterone, Free: >150 pg/ml (reference value 15.00 50.00), Estradiol E2: <10 pg/ml (reference value 11.00 44.00). Or should I wait till the Enanthate ester settles in? still had around 40 e2. 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